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    Re: Geheim! German battle damage in WWI

    @TBR:

    Gerhard Koop/Klaus-Peter Schmolke:
    -Die Grossen Kreuzer Von der Tann bis Hindenburg / ISBN 3-7637--5972-7
    -Linienschiffe: Nassau bis König- Klasse / ISBN 3-7637-5994-8
    -Die Linienschiffe der Bayern- Klasse / ISBN 3-7637-5954-9
    (There are more books written by them about Destroyers, Light Cruisers and more I haven´t got yet...)

    Axel Grießmer:
    -Große Kreuzer der Kaiserlichen Marine 1906-1918, Konstruktionen und Entwürfe im Zeichen des Tirpitz- Planes / ISBN 3-7637-5946-8

    Hans Jürgen Hansen:
    Die Schiffe der deutschen Flotte 1848-1945 / ISBN 3-7979-1834-8

    Good Luck for your search!

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    Re: Geheim! German battle damage in WWI

    Meanwhile:
    Jutland Battle Damage of SMS König










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    Re: Geheim! German battle damage in WWI

    Quote Originally Posted by Yang View Post
    Nice, keep ´em coming. Was that waterline hit a penetration? And how exactly are those splashmarks generated?
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    I haven't got this particular hit report
    Per Campbell, that's a 15" CPC hit from Barham at 19kyds, received at 1609 on 31 May. The shell exploded on the armor with little effect inside the ship, but the dislodged plates allowed about 1000 tons of flooding in. The vibration to the whole ship caused by this hit far aft caused the steering engine to run hot, the lower support for an 8.8cm gun was wrecked, and the stern torpedo flat was about 1/2 flooded. The attached pic shows what it looked like below water.

    The splash marks were caused by the fire of the shell explosion buring away the paint, and also the impact by splinters.
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    Great pic! At the moment I just got a booklet with pictures of the "Amt Kriegschiffbau" so of damages there are only the photos used in contracting/prioritizing, no photos of the repair work per se.

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    Re: Unsere Flotte - The German Navy in 1912

    Great shot of the SMS Thüringen, one of the more famous because of the drawing in which she crushes the British armoured cruiser HMS Black Prince during the night action at Jutland.

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    Re: Geheim! German battle damage in WWI

    Quote Originally Posted by TBR View Post
    Great pic! At the moment I just got a booklet with pictures of the "Amt Kriegschiffbau" so of damages there are only the photos used in contracting/prioritizing, no photos of the repair work per se.
    Sounds like a good booklet. I'd be interested in getting a copy. Where do I find it?

    I've found some pics of the Jutland damage to Derfflinger and Seydlitz, but not the others except for this one, which was in the Osprey booklet German Battlecruisers 1914-18. However, that book also has some non-Jutland torp hit photos.

    It's interesting that the black paint stripe above the red lower hull doesn't show up well in this photo. Maybe it was largely worn off by wave action? As best I can determine, the strake with the dislodged plate was black, and the dark lower hull in the photo was red. Note that the actual waterline left a stain somewhat above the shell hole.

    Also note how the ship's been in drydock long enough for mildew or rust to grow all the way down the hull from a drain well above the waterline to the keel, yet water is still draining out of the front edge of the damaged area.
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    Re: Geheim! German battle damage in WWI



    ISBN- 10: 3-87748-651-7

    It's 44 pages of text, 172 pages of documents (photos, drawings, lists etc.) of the Amt Kriegsschiffbau stretching from 1871 to 1918. Those documents were part of Soviet archives until 1989 so many of the photos won't be in other books. The pictures of battle damage are only a small portion of it. Text and captions are in German.
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