Draws: Too few?

[DerBlitzer]

I'm playing "It's About Time" from Pegasus Bridge (a Curt Schilling design, by the way), and because this one can end in a draw (surprising for a scenario by a pitcher) with neither side obtaining their objectives, I started wondering how many scenarios have a draw as a possiblity. Most specify one VC for one side, and if it's not met, there's a winner. Frankly, I like the draw---no one goes home cursing and it still feels satisfying, though of course it doesn't work for tournaments. I'd like to see more scenarios have them as a possibility. Or maybe I just haven't seen enough scenarios.

Anybody else like draws? Hate them?

[Bob Holmstrom]

I hate draws. Play for 4 or 6 hours for what? No winner or loser? Blah!

Children of the Kunai has a draw provision. I'm sure there are others.

[Nikon53]

I would prefer to not play a scenario with a draw possibility.

It's not soccer, where you have a whole season to balance things out against an entire league. With ASL it is just one game at a time. If there were an ASL League, well then, that might alter my opinion.

[Swiftandsure]

What could be interesting, would be degrees of victory, as they exist in other wargames.
If you are loosing, it can be a challenge not to let your opponent have a "crushing victory" and let him only get away with a "marginal victory".
I find that the win or loose ASL VCs lack subtelty: you cannot see the difference between a victory reaped two turns before the end of the scenario and a victory attained by the last CC DR.

[Glennbo]

I started wondering how many scenarios have a draw as a possiblity. Frankly, I like the draw---no one goes home cursing and it still feels satisfying

I think you've got it exactly backwards. Draws send players home cursing and feeling very UNSATISFIED. Kind of like sex without an orgasm.

[Swiftandsure]

Kind of like sex without an orgasm.

Or sex where both have an orgasm?

[Darrell Andersen]

Draws...blecch. Don't like 'em.

[Will Fleming]

Same. Why not make the VC such that someone wins?

FWIW, in my data, there are 10 draws in 1452 games played.

[Tuomo]

I'm playing "It's About Time" from Pegasus Bridge (a Curt Schilling design, by the way), and because this one can end in a draw (surprising for a scenario by a pitcher) ...

But with 3 turns left you can bring in a reliever who gets the win.

Tom

[The Hermit (IX)]

SoS is a good use of a draw result. To be a definitive winner you must achieve both sets of VCs. It is something of a special case though.