"Sixth Blow" scenario questions

[thedrake]

Some questions that arose out of my gaming groups first try at this scenario.

1-The ELR for the Russians is 3 for BOTH the Partisans and Russian troops, correct?

2-Since we had 4 players we split up the Russians into two groups;the Partisans commanded by one player,the Russian groups A+B by other player.Can the Russian groups commander know where the partisan minefileds are setup beforehand,or is this known only by the Partisan commander?

3-Since E7.2 states Air Support arrives on dr < Turn Number,then does that mean the Russian 120+ RCT OBA will AUTOMATICALLY show up on Russian Turn 1 PFPh? (since there is no possibility of Air Support arriving until at least Turn 2.)

4-Does the Hungarian MMG that sets up with the Hussars on board 2 have capability to be dm so it can be portaged on Horses?

Any help is appreciated as we screwed up the RCT OBA on Turn 1 and it dramatically skewed the game from the start,so we set it up again to restart next week.

Thanks,
Mark Drake

[Swiftandsure]

You are refering to scenario 116 (published in AoO).

1-The ELR for the Russians is 3 for BOTH the Partisans and Russian troops, correct?A19.132 "... Likewise, with a mixed OB of MMC both with and without an underscored Morale Factor, an ELR ≤ 4 would apply to those MMC with an underscored Moral Factor only via SSR."
The problem, here, is that the mention "[ELR: 3]" is listed next to the "Partisans". I would tend to say that they do have ELR: 3, even if there is strictly put, no specific SSR.

2-Since we had 4 players we split up the Russians into two groups;the Partisans commanded by one player,the Russian groups A+B by other player.Can the Russian groups commander know where the partisan minefileds are setup beforehand,or is this known only by the Partisan commander?If the scenario is designed for two players, the Partisans will know where the Russians have placed their Minefields - even otherwise, I believe an SSR should be needed to allow the contrary.

3-Since E7.2 states Air Support arrives on dr < Turn Number,then does that mean the Russian 120+ RCT OBA will AUTOMATICALLY show up on Russian Turn 1 PFPh? (since there is no possibility of Air Support arriving until at least Turn 2.)"each of the first three turns" of the SSR clarifies the problem. The Rocket OBA will show up on Turn 1 (and 2 and 3 if Air Support has not occured).

4-Does the Hungarian MMG that sets up with the Hussars on board 2 have capability to be dm so it can be portaged on Horses?A9.8 "A weapon may start a scenario dm at the owner's option". The Hungarian MMG can be dismantled, so you can set it up dm.

Now Pete Shelling, the designer, is often around on this forum, so he can answer more clearly than I.

[Mister T]

I will also play in a couple of weeks this scenario with 3 other players :yummy:




The problem, here, is that the mention "[ELR: 3]" is listed next to the "Partisans". I would tend to say that they do have ELR: 3, even if there is strictly put, no specific SSR.


IMO The ELR of 3 applies to Russians (and SMC partisans) only. Without SSR, I would keep the 337s with an ELR of 5.

I have another question regarding the scenario: being Allied, can Germans use Hungarian SW/Guns (and vice-versa) without captured equipment penalties ?

[rglesing@indot.]

I will also play in a couple of weeks this scenario with 3 other players :yummy:




IMO The ELR of 3 applies to Russians (and SMC partisans) only. Without SSR, I would keep the 337s with an ELR of 5.

I have another question regarding the scenario: being Allied, can Germans use Hungarian SW/Guns (and vice-versa) without captured equipment penalties ?
I don't have the scenario card in front of me, but would agree on general principles regarding the ELR of the Partisans being 5, not 3.
Captured equipment is anything with a different nationality/different color (even if allied.) It takes an SSR to change that.

[Swiftandsure]

As there is no SSR about the Partisan not having ELR: 5, I would give them (SMC included) ELR: 5.
BUT the mention of ELR: 3 is placed on the line describing the Partisans, which are the only Allied units setting up on board (and nothing is written on the Russian reinforcements lines about their ELR), so that is why I guessed that the designer gave ELR: 3 to Partisans too...
Pete, where are you?

[wrongway149]

As there is no SSR about the Partisan not having ELR: 5, I would give them (SMC included) ELR: 5.
BUT the mention of ELR: 3 is placed on the line describing the Partisans, which are the only Allied units setting up on board (and nothing is written on the Russian reinforcements lines about their ELR), so that is why I guessed that the designer gave ELR: 3 to Partisans too...
Pete, where are you?

I was at Winter Offensive. , enojoying my copy of VotG.

Partisans have ELR 5.

[Mister T]

Thanks Pete !