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dannybou
18 May 05, 00:23
Do you play any of HPS' Napoleon and/or Early American War series? Any interest in seeing these series covered in the forum as well? Please vote and let me know your opinions.

Reiryc
18 May 05, 02:11
I play and enjoy them both....

Hope to see some coverage here.

rahamy
18 May 05, 07:16
Would like them covered in the forums/WARS and in the Downloads section. I've asked through staff channels for the Napoleonics specifically, but with the current changes going on I haven't heard back as of yet.

I have a decent amount of content for a section too...over 80 downloads and 16 articles.

KG_RangerBooBoo
18 May 05, 07:45
I play both, mainly in the CCC and NWC, but would also play here if they were supported.

Alex Krolikowsk
18 May 05, 08:02
I play them both from time to time...
Separate forum/ladder here is a good idea.

Paulinski
18 May 05, 08:22
I don't play them but I agree on a separate forum/ladder idea

CyberRanger
18 May 05, 09:06
I'd love to see a separate forum, especially for the Napoleonic period.

Tom Bridges
18 May 05, 10:32
:thumup: Great idea, especially with Waterloo just out!

KG_RangerBooBoo
18 May 05, 10:44
I'd like to see a separate forum for the period that covered both the Napoleonic and Early American War games and call it something like Age of Muskets or War with Muskets or something similar. There are already 4 HPS Napoleonic and 3 HPS Early American games out and then you add in the three Talonsoft titles and you have just about as many as the Civil War games.

dannybou
18 May 05, 14:33
OK I've asked the Admins. Their response is: they want to see a dedicated staff on this possible forum, like mods, staffers, who could post information, actively seek AARs, just keep the forum and section going. What they don't want, and I tend to agree with them, is to create a forum where there is not any activity. Take for example this forum, when it started out I often saw nobody on the forum discussing and posting. But look at it now, although we are far from being as popular as TOAW, our regular posters have increased, the PzC and MC are on WARS, we discuss/post, we even started a small tournament, and the WARS ladder membership is growing. SO I am going to ask this: Are any of you able to commit to such a forum? If so, then we are in business. Comments? Opinions?

Liveline99
18 May 05, 17:04
Sure bring it on...sometimes over at the Blitz things are a little slow in the Nappy section, maybe it would/could be better here???

Reiryc
18 May 05, 20:26
I've got more time than I know what to do with...

Would be happy to mod the forum and help with getting information put up on a regular basis.

dannybou
18 May 05, 20:37
I've got more time than I know what to do with...

Would be happy to mod the forum and help with getting information put up on a regular basis.
Glad to see it. I'll pass on your name to the Admins.

rahamy
18 May 05, 20:40
Being as it's part of my job :cheeky: I'd be a contributing member, source of detailed answers, etc. Essentially a mod. :smoke:

dannybou
18 May 05, 21:08
Being as it's part of my job :cheeky: I'd be a contributing member, source of detailed answers, etc. Essentially a mod. :smoke:
Great stuff!!

Gary McClellan
18 May 05, 22:35
I'll be around if you do it :laugh:

dannybou
20 May 05, 16:04
To keep you Guys in the loop, this is a response I received in the staff forum to our request for a Napoleonic forum:

Well, go over the posts that Don made about how we are going to be running things now that we've made the switch to the new server/name/look. It needs to be a supported forum. There needs to be lots of interest, we need a dedicated staff that are willing (up front!) to commit to posting scads of material, so it can be properly populated, stay fresh with new material, have someone in authority going over it on a regular basis, etc.

It *is* more than just someone willing to be a mod. We need people willing to work to make the section popular and successful. If it cannot serve a valuable function here, we don't require it. Can we get a link to the thread, Danny? (Oh - did you get the turn I finally sent? )

And how about some ideas kicked around for what will be done in this forum from it's proponents? What kind of material will you commit to creating/posting to start things off if we make the forum? What will be added on a regular basis? A regular column? AARs? Original Mods and articles on a regular basis?

Show us that the tools and commitment are there to make this work, show that the need and interest is there in our community, show that the staff is available and willing to put in the time and effort, and I can tell you that it will be alot easier for the powers-that-be to make a decision in the positive.

So of the members who came forward, are you still willing and able to perform the duties required?

rahamy
20 May 05, 16:10
Hi Danny,

Nope, and as you said in the staff forum, I'm not able to do that for the current CWB section either...

Regards,
Rich

dannybou
21 May 05, 08:51
Hi Danny,

Nope, and as you said in the staff forum, I'm not able to do that for the current CWB section either...

Regards,
Rich
Then you and I are on the same page as I always suspected we were.

Reiryc
21 May 05, 10:21
I could do a lot of that if it was a generic napoleonic's forum, not just an hps napoleonics forum. Why? Because to keep generating interest, imo, we would need to continually discuss the new napoleonic type wargames that come to the market. While hps has fine games that I enjoy, they don't come out with enough titles in the napoleonic series to justify a section with the kind of content requested above.

Add in other games, like cossaks 2, imperial glory, crown of glory, empire in arms, battles of napoleon, campaigns on the danube, etc and then, imo we will have enough content to keep a regular community.

The community of dedicated hps napoleonic wargamers is small compared to some of the other communities imo. The only way to meet the criteria as listed by you dannybou would be to widen the target audience to all the napoleonic titles or atleast a good number of them so that interest and new topics are fresh.

AAR's would be encouraged but of course it's up to the members to want to do them and post them, trivia like rahamy does with the cwb section is a nice idea that could be replicated, discussions about what-if scenarios might also generate some discussion.

rahamy
21 May 05, 10:40
But then you open up the can of worms on how to scroe the various games, as most are not alike - a nightmare for WARS. Additionally, most of the stuff that comes out is one title, or maybe two and the company stops. In some cases the games don't even run without huge patches. Stability and reliablity are big questions.

Between the Battleground and HPS titles there are 7 Napoleonic games out, and more are coming. Additionally if we include the EAW series that add's another 3 titles in. If more titles were to be covered I think they should conform to a similar format for the reasons mentioned above.

Another hurdle is, if you cover everything Napoleonic then who ever the section leader is will have to get copies of all those games so they know what they are about. A financial buden on whoever that may be.

Regardless though, if a Napoleonic section is started that supports the HPS titles in any way, you will have my support on it. That can be as a formal "Moderator" or just an active member - what ever you need. If it doesn't support those games then I won't be able to participate.

Regards,
Rich

Reiryc
21 May 05, 11:36
I'm of the opinion that not every game that we support needs to be on the ladder unless a following merits it.

So I wouldn't bunch everything onto one ladder, but make a tiller napoleonics/eaw ladder to start and then add ladders if needed with other games.

I'd think that if 2-3 people moderate and work on the napoleonics forum that the financial burden of the games could be split between them... who knows though.

rahamy
21 May 05, 12:33
I'm of the opinion that not every game that we support needs to be on the ladder unless a following merits it.

So I wouldn't bunch everything onto one ladder, but make a tiller napoleonics/eaw ladder to start and then add ladders if needed with other games.


Good point...I guess we'll see what the powers that be say to all of it. I think Don & Brian are at a E3 now, so it will probably be next week before we hear anything.

Reiryc
21 May 05, 12:46
I hear ya...

My goal is just to increase exposure in a convenient 'one stop shop' for napoleonics type titles. Whether they are land or sea I don't much care.

The more info, discussion, etc that we can provide the better for those of us who are napoleonic fans :D

Btw... really enjoying waterloo (and I'm only playing the ai which usually bores me to tears but not so far), nice job!

rahamy
21 May 05, 13:46
Thank you Sir, glad you enjoy it. Creation of that map nearly killed me! :nuts:

We've got an expansion package coming together as well for it that will release around the time of the first patch. A ton of stuff included in it that will really enhance the title. Company level actions of the major aspects of the campiagn as well as a much larger OOB adding in additional forces for all three armies.

trauth116
22 May 05, 09:44
I am hoping the powers that be see fit to create discussion areas - without feeling compelled to always set up the works ... I mean after all it is all about bandwidth -and attracting viewers - the more the merrier, right?


Well who knows -- maybe I never see the 'big' picture through the correct light. :smoke:

rahamy
24 May 05, 19:23
Looks like we are in business gentlemen! :)

First round is on me!!

dannybou
24 May 05, 20:41
Yes this is good news indeed. Long life to the Napoleonic forum!! Will you be adding scenarios to WARS?

KG_RangerBooBoo
24 May 05, 21:05
YeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaw! Great to see a forum/ladder devoted to this period! I assume we are going to have a ladder? :)